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slambert 02-25-2009 23:37

Debuggers
 
Hi Exe-tool members!

I am a newbie, and I was wondiering if you guys have some suggestions to good debuggers, as I am sure that you know a lot more about this than I do!

Regards,
Slambert

cyberbob 02-26-2009 06:32

well, depends what do you want to debug, my preferences are as follows:

software cracking - OllyDbg
malware analysis - IDA pro
debugging my own code WinDbg

JMI 02-26-2009 10:30

You also need to read up on the operation of various debuggers. For example, OllyDbg is a "ring 3" debugger, while some of the older debuggers , such a Softice and WinDbg, are "ring 0". You need to understand the difference and a quick search on google should suggest to you the difference. Softice is/was a great debugger, but has issues with the newer operating systems.

Bear in mind that "technical terms" actually are important to use correctly. For example, IDA Pro is not actually a "debugger." Technically it is a "disassembler" which can map and permit one to explore the flow of the code. It actually has it's own debugger included with some of the versions, but generally it is not yet considered to be as good as some of the other stand alone "debuggers".

Regards,

Av0id 02-26-2009 13:04

some of debugger works only in x86 arch (ollydbg) and only windbg/ida works in x86 and in x64

davo007 02-26-2009 19:56

ollydbg works in x64, but obviously will only debug 32 bit (x86) programs

Git 02-26-2009 20:11

IDA may be considered inferior to other debuggers, but it is an unfair and outdated opinion IMO.

Git

cyberbob 02-26-2009 22:46

I agree with Git the latest IDA is superb, versatile debugger! has only one drawback: the price:(

ripred 02-27-2009 01:56

So we give SYSER a fair chance
 
Hello,

I miss SYSER in the contributions. Why neglected you him. I have
many years of SOFTICE uses and now I use SYSER. SYSER has his problems, but he becomes better and better. If I think of SOFTICE 2.x, there were also many problems. So we give SYSER a fair chance.

Yours faithfully (My English is a disaster, sorry)

davo007 02-27-2009 04:59

is it ironic that on a forum that is dedicated to cracking software that the drawback is price :)

goku 02-27-2009 07:53

debuggers only net app ? reflector

ZeNiX 02-27-2009 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberbob (Post 62063)
I agree with Git the latest IDA is superb, versatile debugger! has only one drawback: the price:(


Which version is the [superd] that you mentioned?

I only used the debugger of 4.xx, and it is not so easy to handle as OD.
Therefore, I have never tried the debugger of 5.xx.

cyberbob 02-27-2009 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenix (Post 62078)
Which version is the [superd] that you mentioned?

the latest version!

davo007 02-28-2009 19:14

i've been using version 5 recently, i originally found it hard to go from OD to IDA, but after a while you find that the graphs make things sooo much easier and you'll get used it after a while.

squareD 03-01-2009 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by davo007 (Post 62097)
i've been using version 5 recently, i originally found it hard to go from OD to IDA, but after a while you find that the graphs make things sooo much easier and you'll get used it after a while.

Well, in my opinion the graphs make all more complicated...
I mastered the change from SoftICE to OllyDebug, but never got familar with IDA.
It's really hard to understand all those potentialities of this program.
It should be much easier, if they would make their IDA multilingual for learning it in the mother-language.

Regards, squareD

ricnar456 03-01-2009 01:54

IDA is the best disassembler and is a growing debugger, is better each version, but I debug with olly and remote windbg or softice in ring0, and look the disassemble in IDA for analysis.

ricnar


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