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it wasn't about skills of anyone, but what i wanted to say: you shouldn't stick to most common ways of patching / unpacking just because they are used by everybody. if you don't try abstract things like i mentioned there's no big learning-effect. the time when a protector is called "strong" is just the time where nobody knows how to defeat it. it was the same about ASPr 1.23. LaBBa wrote a tutorial then and the protector became more easier, also for beginners. i'm sure time will bring you tutorials and also tools for protectors like this.
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