armadillo strange behavior

i have an exe protected with armadillo apparently 4.xx copymem and debug blocker(as it created two processes in the memory and detects ollydbg)
peid reports it as 1.5x 2.x (overlay)
i tried to use armadillo version detector method using ollydbg but couldnt find armVersion> string.
I tried to use copymemII + debug blocker tutorial by dappa and honacho
but ...
I tried to detach son from father, by scripy arma detach,, but never finds EAX=1 ,
manual debugging , doesnt seem to work as when ever i try to run it and do manual unpacking all the tutorial seem to fail here, as I cant even find single instruction same as in tutorials.
i am a newbie, if any one could help me I'll really appreciate it.
I am not requesting a crack I want to do it on my own, but little jumpstart is all I need.
thanks