SoftLock/HardLock

I have program which can be activated with %subj% But i cant find anything useful about that. I cant break with softice on EP (i cant run program with softice loaded), ida cant dissasembly it very well (despite its not packed), procdump segfault when im trying dump it from memory. I cant find any way in which i could try something.

[JMI]

Well it should be obvious that you are facing anti-softice detection, anti-ida and other counter measures. Therefore a good tactic would be to do some research on those issues generally. There are many articles on the net on softice detection. You need to learn about hiding softice from such attacks.

But the first step in attacking ANY protection system would be to actually spend some time READING articles and tuts on the net devoted to reversing your target. It is usually useful to also go to the website of the company and find out what information may be available there on what they claim the product can do.

Regards,

[dyn!o]

Pretty interesting.

SafeLock and Hardlock are different protections.

SafeLock was made for SafeLock company by some russian guys in recent months - it's nothing unusual, IceExt completely hides the debugger and then you can do what you want (it isn't strong protection, for example: import table is almost untouched).

Hardlock is hardware dongle based protection with its usual envelope idea. There exists some ready made tools which allow to automatically deprotect the envelope or emulate it (I don't mean the emulator from BrainStudio but other interesting small software which disables the HardLock envelope automatically - assuming you have at least one valid dongle or access to it).

Good Luck.

JMI:
hehe thx for your opinion, but dont worry, i usually try search net first, and did all what you've told

dyn!o:
thx for interesting informations. (btw its SoftLock not SafeLock
I already tried patched iceext for ds3.1 but after some time of program was running my computer restart.
As i said i tried to break on EP to bypass SI detections, but i cant do it, delayed messagebox is always first (text in it is ofcourse encrypted)

after program start there is menu in which you can choose unlock method - you can plug hardlock, or softlock .lc file.

ill keep trying, more info later (i hope)

[dyn!o]

Sorry, of course I meant SoftLock (software protector) - not SafeLock (it's CD protection only).

Anyway, very interesting situation occured. SoftLock mixed with HardLock? I wonder who choosed so strange solution?

Greetings.

[hobgoblin]

What target are you working on?

hobgoblin

Its SAPRO/32 - Saphire suite, which is running on LogiCad "platform" (produced by kirchner soft) If there is someone interested, just pm me.

Btw IceExt patched for ds 3.1 freeze my box in other cases too, so its issue of IceExt and not SoftLock protection.

I forgot to write, that main problem is that i cant find homepage of "my" softlock protection - its seems that Alladin (hardlock manufacturer) hasnt anything with it. And there is bunch of programs called softlock, but any of them seems to be that right.