COMMENTS ON NEW RULES

[JMI]

Place your comments, bitches, gripes, or whatever here. Keep in mind that they will NOT count for promotion purposes and, while they will be considered and might have some influence, this is not something which is up to the Users to decide.

Regards,

[MaRKuS-DJM]

i think it's a bit hard that users in group registered can only post 1 time in 24 hours. let's say somebody who knows a lot about programming / reversing... it's a long time for such person. why does this restriction exist? is it that new members get more active?

[JMI]

Aaron does not need to and did not discuss the reasons for making the Rules as he did, but I can offer a good assumption as to why. We have many, many, many new registered users who thought, incorrectly, that they could immediately post a bunch of posts and obtain either attachment download and/or FTP download privileges by simply posting a bunch of short, meaningless messages of the "Thank You" type or, often, just pure random typing of letters.

The limitations on newer users require that they demonstrate some "patience" and "determination" to achive certain "privileges." Those who are here only to leech rarely have such "patience" and their "determination" is usually directed at trying to "circumvent" the Rules, rather than follow them. This is something somewhat inherent in Reverse Engineers but 'these" people care only about themselves and what "they" want.

It there were not so many people interested in hammering the Forum and FTP just to get stuff they probably do not have any idea how to use, such restrictions might not be necessary.

You may have noticed that we currently have about 2600 members (not Members). Over 600 of them have joined within the last few days and you may be suprised that the database containes more than 24,000 "users" who have registered at one time or another, most of them just to get the FTP download password, back in the days when almost no one could get on the FTP because so many were hammering it.

So I agree that it is more difficult for the new user to get things done, but that will also enhance the chances that those who do "stick it out" will be of more use and contribution to the Forum over the long run.

Regards,

[MaRKuS-DJM]

Originally Posted by JMI

Aaron does not need to and did not discuss the reasons for making the Rules as he did, but I can offer a good assumption as to why.

first of all, i just want to say these sentences shouldn't look like i want to start some discussion. i see no words that points on a "discussion". first sentence was just a short introduction, second one an example and the third and fourth why i posted: the questions why but you explained it very well. i didn't think about the FTP because i personally doesn't use it very often. two times a month or less. thanks for your effort JMI.

Greetings,
MaRKuS TH-DJM

[Michel]

May I suggest the term "Newbie" for the second class may be confused with "newbie" ?

[JMI]

A point. Maybe Aaron will reconsider and find the following less subject to misinterpretation. That's up to him. I don't really think those in the "Newbie" usergroup will confuse their "usergroup" with a general reversing "newbie" because the "other" categories are related only to "post count" and not an evaluation of the quality of the Posts, themselves. But any implication might be avoided if he wanted to use the following, instead:


"Registered"

"New Member"

"Trial Member"

"Member"

"VIP"

But, again, that is his choice to make.

Regards,

[oVERfLOW]

Hello everyone

I think that posts count isn't a good way of validating users.
maybe post contents be a better way.

By this way every new user has to post any unvaluble content just for being able to download and ...

now I'm not able to download just a crack tutorial so how can I have any idea about that ?

At last, Excuse me for my poor English
I'm not a native

The search restriction is too severe to novices.
I heard of "ExeTools.com" for a long time, but the forum closed the registration at that time. Today I am searching something and Google led me to a post of the forum, and I just found that the forum allows registrations again.
So, in my opinion, those numbers of posts are a large knowledgebase to users like me. Not to search is a pain to me, because that means I have to browse the boards screen by screen.
By the way, the periodical password changing is another pain to me, I think.

I have nothing against newbies or leechers or whatevers,
but i agree with JMI "THE BOSS IS ALWAYS RIGHT"

[D-Jester]

Originally Posted by JMI

How hard can it be to actually "write down" your passwords in some semi-secure location where you live? As stated, your computer will "remember" your current password for you, but that means "anyone" who has access to your computer...

This is probably the most common method of password hacking.

Rather than write it down or save it using a password saving program, use something you will remember.

I recommend 8 minimum to 20 Charaters maximum

Use common sayings like your pets name(s) Mixed with numbers such as your phone number area code or prefix, zip code, member number, and-or underscore and dashes, the key is to break up common words with other information, this nearly eliminates the possibility that someone could guess you password even by brute force attack, or that you forget it

Such as:

gamma740_open385
Get546Window459Text-A
lima098-_zebra06you
Flush89Instruction78_Cache
spot-8_wilbur

There are endless possibilities, the key is to structure your password so its easy to remember.

[JMI]

D-Jester:

The general rule of password "hacking" is that people generally leave their password in some "unsecure" location, like on a sticky attached to their monitor or under their keyboard. The premise of my comment was that they keep it in some "semi-secure" location. The only problem with your suggestion is quantity. I personally have at least 25 different passwords which I frequently use, and while it is fairly easy to remember one or two or even seven or eight, it becomes more and more complex and the numbers of them grow. It would be extremely dangerous to use the "same" password for more than one reasonably critical use.

Regards,

I don't think Aaron's out of line in any way..
I belong to many other forums and they place similar restrictions on new users as well..

[pp2]

Hello JMI!

May I suggest one rule? 10 (or whatever else) posts limit doesn't make sense, imho. You should permit to download (FTP or attachments) only for users, that were registered at least 1 month ago (also with 10 valueable posts or created threads, not replies) for example. This will limit users whose only goal is to get download permission (as you can see, I was registered long ago, but do not have such permission by this time). And 1 post in 24h limit is too sad (I will not answer anybody else this day)... you'd better limit byte count for downloading attachments (forum credits, like in FTP), for example.

All these modifications can be easily doen with VBulletin, AFAIK.

Best regards, pp2.

p.s. happy new year to everybody!

[redbull]

For what it's worth I think the current membership policy is fine.

I guess I speak for the other active members who has not posted a response on this thread!

[n0ital]

Happy New Year to all users...IMHO, the machine is starting to eat itself...why not divorce the FTP from the forum and be done with it...perhaps the forum will become a place to freely share info without having big brother suspiciously vet every post as if users were always attempting to circumvent needless rulez...but then again, there wouldn't be much use for overseers...power plays...blah.

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight!

n0iTaL