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Old 09-08-2004, 05:57
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Haha thanks for link made my day

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Old 09-08-2004, 06:20
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That's awesome! Thanks for the read...definitely very interesting.

I would have to agree with Pierre, however. From his perspective, this Benjamin could very likely be using a pirated version. At any rate, IDA is still a great piece of software, and to not go and buy it because of this meaningless post is quite unlogical if you ask me.

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Old 09-08-2004, 07:07
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What's wrong with sending a message in the suggestion box?


Pierre is just an arrogant bastard. Existing customer or not.

http://www.datarescue.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000185
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Old 09-08-2004, 07:26
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I found this in the google groups about IDA Pro Manager. It's very interessting to know. DON'T SUPPORT SUCH COMPANIES!
That's quite funny to read

like you would support datarescue anyway.

I understand Pierre very well even if he is a bit rude at times.

If most of the guys were buying IDA rather than using cracked/carded releases (im not talking about crackers, but anyone), i think Pierre wouldn't have become like this with every one around.

Beside, Datarescue doesn't sell IDA to guys not working in a field that would explain the need of IDA. ie: Security etc.

This is because of the cracks and release.

Quite fun to read on a cracking's board that host a shitload of version of IDA , something like "do not to support Datarescue" )

My two cents whining lines.
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Old 09-08-2004, 16:08
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ok maybe you're right, IDA is really best even it's too expensive (300$ is half of my payment)

but as you wrote Datarescue don't sell IDA everyone, so how can I became a customer? (... so I can support Datarescue's work?)

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Old 09-09-2004, 00:52
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You would have to work for a company that makes software or tests software for another company. Like stated in the post before, usually its used in security to check for holes in a app or system. I actually use IDA to dissasemble games. That way I can modify them to my liking.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:33
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For the hobbyists (like crackers) it might be expensive (how can they spend 300$ if they can't even afford a 5$ shareware ), but considering the fact that IDA is made for a more professional context (e.g. security, antivirus, as has been said before) I think it's an adequate price.. It's also a very special tool, as the majority of computer users doesn't even know about disassemblers. Thus the number of sold licences will be accordingly small, demanding a higher price.
I also understand that software vendors refuse to give support to people that use non-licensed software (this includes demo software..). Man big companies selling professional software only give support to customers having paid for support.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:40
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But this is a wrong attitude. And it's not true that this tool is especially used for security. Me for example, Im using this to find out how Windows API calls work, what they do and so on.
I added many features in my application because I found out how some thinks work in windows. On example is windows autologon without using plain text registry key "DefaultPassword". I disassembled TewakUi for this purpose and found the solution there.

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