rank your "uncrackable" software protection

[LaBBa]

Hi all
well i open this thread in "General Discussion " because i just wanted to create a General Discussion about : " how do you rank the protections" ?

I have entered in google a serach : uncrackable software protection

I wanted to know what kind of protections are claiming to be 100% safe
here are the TOP5 resualts that google ranked:

1. ROCKEY6 - dungle. well we know that v1 - v4 have been already cracked and no one is realy looking on v6 or even v5 because no "real" intersting targets protected with rocky6 or 5

2. siliconkey - dungle. same as rockey... no "real" target is protected

3. ExeCryptor - has been unpacked and is crackable.

4. CodeProtector - the only way for "1 time password safe" and anti reversing and serial fishing and keygening if you don't have at least 1 time some one registeration info.

5. eXPressor 1.6 - it's fully known how to unpack and crack


it's realy strange because we know that most 0day applications uses ASPR and ARM for protection but some how they are not in the google TOP 5 even FlexLM and HASP are not there..

if i would have need to rank the protections base on how good they are i would have puted :

#1 for 0day - CodeProtector ( i know that there are more of those but this is currently #1 choise by google)
#1 for ISO protections - siliconkey Or ROCKEY6

and then all the rest no mater who or what because they are all crackable


please post your ranks for the best protector that you think is the better choise.

(I think it's going to be a fun thread)

Regards,
LaBBa

[Av0id]

armadillo with secure sections, asprotect or execryptor with key markers and of course starforce

ps. also senselock dOngle

[ahmadmansoor]

Code Virtualizer .....and WinLicense & Themida ....take some wide place specially when u protect program and u has the sorce code for it so u can obfuscation some area of ur code so it make it hrad to dump and cracked..i like this protector ....so I still not produce any carck for programs protected with this protector

[Git]

You forgot VMProtect. As close to uncrackable as it gets.

Git

[TmC]

I think that software protections are dead, at least if concepted like armadillo, acprotect, obsidium, and so on.
The only one that are saved are the one with heavy virtual machine transformation like execryptor, themida and all VM-alike protections (private exe protector, vmprotect, ttprotect etc...)

[D-Jester]

Aye, localized protections (those limited to client only) are a dying breed.
More and more custom protections are being seen requiring server-side activation and runtime requiring a server connection.

REing won't go with them though. Waiting for the day when loaders handle TCP packet captures. Truly a new phase, rather than a deadening.

[Sabor]

except with server side protection each time the company goes bankrupt or looses connection you're screwed. Especially a mutlibillion dollar accounting firm who cannot connect to their dbase because of a activation.

[squareD]

I think Obsidium shell become a place in rank-list...
Tried a target with may be version > 1.4.0.0 beta and failed piteous.
Seems like detecting hided debugger, no dump possible, crash by searching referenced text strings and other silly things!
Looks like Obsidium ist debugging himself with CreateProcessInternalW.

If someone would like to unpack my target, I really would be thankfully...

regards, magic

[tofu-sensei]

syncrosoft claims their protection mcfact (which apparently transforms machine code into really, really slow finite automata and is used e.g. by steinbug) has never been broken...

[Sabor]

syncrosoft has been broken plenty of times. but it is actually good.

[D-Jester]

All USB-eLicenser protected software products running on the Windows platform remain uncracked since autumn 2005.

On the Mac OS X platform, Syncrosoft protected software has never been cracked since the launch of the MCFACT technology in the year 2000.

I don't do Mac

I believe that the new versions of Oreans Technology Code Virtualizer , WinLicense & Themida, , are beyond the reach of crackeable be, but this theory is generating a Chinese forum and be reflected in future with new tools unpackers,.

[LaBBa]

Originally Posted by D-Jester

I don't do Mac

it's like saying " i don't do drugs"

[Sabor]

a dongle cracked on windows is the same as a dongle cracked on mac; it is the same dongle (duh), the only difference is no one has cared to port the emulator to macos due to lack of demand.

[Archer]

I don't get any point in ranking protections. I think crackers already approximately know about hard and easy protections. So this topic may help only to software developers to choose the hardest protection. And that's the reason why I'm also against releasing protectors to the public. I think it's a bit egoistic and looks like: I can unpack this protector so I'll release it to the public so anyone can pack it's software with it, it's time for you to have some pain with unpacking. Anyway it's just imho.

What about the topic, I successfully unpacked with some generic private tool Themida, ExeCryptor, AsProtect, StarForce and many other packers and protectors. So I think some dongles offer the best protection. Maybe the ones that allow to load arbitrary code into them.