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Old 06-23-2021, 06:57
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Windows 11

Has anyone watched this version? The design was changed there, but the design is not interesting. I wonder what's inside. Shows the version of the files is 10.0, and the version of the Windows itself too.

It's look like another version of windows 10..

Torrent from https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6069154
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Old 06-25-2021, 02:02
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Windows 11 can run Android apps.

Intel Bridge Technology is a runtime post-compiler that enables applications to run natively on x86-based devices, including running those applications on Windows. Intel’s multi-architecture XPU strategy provides the right engines for the right workloads by integrating leading CPU cores, graphics technology, artificial intelligence accelerators, image processors and more, in a single, verified solution.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-tech-unleashes-windows-experience.html
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Old 07-01-2021, 21:21
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Hope that we can sideload apk file for apps that not available on Amazon App Store.
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Old 07-01-2021, 23:32
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well, right now i have no interest in Windows 11 which won't even support 7gen processor... you can only install the dev build and test and report bugs.. and they fix and on the final day well get bamboos from Microsoft because we don't have 8gen processor.. we are just beta tester.. XD
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Old 07-02-2021, 10:13
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well, right now i have no interest in Windows 11 which won't even support 7gen processor... you can only install the dev build and test and report bugs.. and they fix and on the final day well get bamboos from Microsoft because we don't have 8gen processor.. we are just beta tester.. XD
It's not a guarantee but Microsoft is 'listening' to all the backlash they got when they announced the requirements and may dial it back some to older processors over time:

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https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/06/28/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements/
Overall though, people already showed the current requirements and even the reduced ones are all nonsense and you can install it on some extremely old stuff without issue. Just requires some modifications to the ISO (mainly overwriting some installer files with Windows 10 versions to make it ignore hardware checks and such.)

Microsoft did this similar thing with Windows 10 by trying to lock it to newer processors before but the community quickly made patches to bypass that as well. Results will obviously vary based on driver/chipset support and if older drivers that were able to work with Win10 will still work on 11 going forward.
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Old 07-02-2021, 12:44
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The newer processor requirement is a joke. The only real important aspect is the number of cores. I'd take a octacore or hexacore of an older generation over a quad or dual core of a newer generation based on my experience.

Microsoft seems to be exponentially adding services doing random stuff lately though. Moore's law is no longer halving transistor size and doubling speed. Noe the new rule is software halving performance by doubling background tasks. So you have to double cores every few years.

It's a gigantic waste as most of us are not doing computational tasks often to require it. The heavy amount of power saving in chip design shows you that as long as it's not eating too much electricity though, they do not care. The chipmakers justify their lack of advance in clock speeds by adding cores that the software then justifies. Of course there are cool things we can do with parallel programming and all those cores, but its pretty niche. Well like brute forcing for one
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Old 07-15-2021, 16:45
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So you have to double cores every few years.
Agree with you.
This makes any sense in real life practice?
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Old 07-17-2021, 03:53
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I agree with chants, and Windows after 7 doesn't makes any sense to be honest.
8, 8.1, 10 and 11 doesn't bring anything useful to the table.
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Old 07-18-2021, 02:48
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I agree with chants, and Windows after 7 doesn't makes any sense to be honest.
8, 8.1, 10 and 11 doesn't bring anything useful to the table.
Wouldn't say that they didn't bring anything useful at all. Just that the negatives generally outweighed the positives for most people.


Windows 8 / 8.1:
- New Features: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_8

Windows 10:
- New Features: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_10


I'd say both Windows 8.1 and 10 have had excellent new features and changes/upgrades that made them great operating systems, but they were shadowed by the extremely poor choices and changes that Microsoft also bundled into each OS.

Windows 8 and 8.1 biggest change that pushed people away was the start menu. Trying to force the 'Metro Tiles' onto desktop users was an extremely stupid move and wasn't done with any real good-faith reason behind it. It was solely to try to save their failing mobile phone marketshare with Windows Phone 7 and newer. The phones were a massive failure and their last attempt to save it was force that ecosystem onto every device to try to make one consistent experience. (Which obviously failed and wasn't at all what desktop users wanted.)

Windows 10 tried to win back people with a older style Start Menu but still kept the live tiles no one wanted. But the biggest reasons people hated Windows 10 instead were the forced telemetry, forced Cortona, forced updates and the horrible redo of Windows Search that tried to bring in web searching that just completely broke search altogether. Otherwise Win 10 is a very solid operating system.


In each situation, you can 'fix' the operating system and get it back to where you'd want it with some tweaks, modding, and extra work. I personally use Windows 10 mostly now and love it. I just take the extra time when first reinstalling to lock down the OS, remove all the garbage I don't want, replace the Search, and get things setup how I want. I did the same with Windows 8.1 when I was using that as my main OS of choice too.
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Old 08-02-2021, 18:29
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Window 11 Performance: There was some internal change made to the kernel mode scheduler in Windows 11, the performance difference vs Windows 10 is quite noticeable.

@atom0s - You are correct. A friend of mine was able to do this by overwriting certain things with the Windows 10 .wim .. I will enquire to him about the details.


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Overall though, people already showed the current requirements and even the reduced ones are all nonsense and you can install it on some extremely old stuff without issue. Just requires some modifications to the ISO (mainly overwriting some installer files with Windows 10 versions to make it ignore hardware checks and such.)
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Old 08-03-2021, 09:36
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I've been worried about their TPM and others restriction on requirement, seems all my old pc and laptop would not be eligible to install/update this version,
they push really hard on hardware
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Old 08-03-2021, 17:03
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Still Windows 7. No interest in Windows 11 or 10.
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Old 08-19-2021, 11:01
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it feel like there try be like mac. I thought Microsoft said that win 10 was last version of windows.
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Old 08-20-2021, 13:41
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unfortunate win 10 is a necessity

need use to be able install all latest compilers office app for it,

sorry 7 terminated game over.
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does win11 run andriod app yet? last time I tried it didn't have the amazon store nor running the android app yet.
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