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[hobferret]

JMI The Devil Incarnate

Mate your synapses are definately failing 1824+23=1847

Are we talking about the Mary Anna Morrison who died in 1915, if so and she is really a distant relative you should be a proud man. "Old blue light" was very much endeared to her

/hobferret

[JMI]

Well actually, it was my eyesight, rather than my synapses that failed me. It was 5:30 a.m. my time when I made that post and I had been working all night rebuilding three laptops and installing all the updates and I simply mis-read the Birthdate for the General as "1834" and added your "24". The math was correct for what I "thought" I saw. Where is Ben Franklin when we need him. I've got to try some of his new fangled spectacles.

I guess it is a good thing he was a much better General than he was a professor.

Regards,

[hobferret]

JMI Oops

I never thought of him, maybe that's what we need

Let's go fly a kite and maybe a shock will put everything back to normal

I think you can find him in Christ Church cemetary PA

The spectacles are a good idea too, everything fails with age

/hobferret

JMI have you stopped reading the forum posts ??
how come these two here are posting dud posts to increase thier post count ??
is it an official post count scam racket *
one is gonna be a vvip and other will become vip if they are allowed to continue
in this manner
your urgent intervention is required to stop the ghosts from posting old tales from 1847

*
well i increased my post count by one in the process

[JMI]

Where? Where is this happening? I didn't "see" it. Where are those dang spectacles???

And hobferret, according to the movie "National Treasure", that's not all that's buried "in Christ Church cemetary PA."

Regards,

[hobferret]

JMI amigo mio

Will have to get my spectacles out, the good pair and check, because I thought I had the one and only original copy of the Declaration of Independence

Justin Bartha has disappearing spectacles, did you notice it in the movie, one shot they are there and the next they have disappeared.

It's only a little banter JuneMouse, although my mouse does not have a month, just Microsoft.

We have done stuff like this before on exetools so don't panic about being a VIP+, I don't mind being a noob

/hobferret

[JMI]

Hey hobferret,

I believe JuneMouse was just joining in the general fun and humour attempts of our exchange by making an "offtopic" comment about "our" "offtopic" discussion. If you were wearing your spectales, you would have drawn that conclusion from the tiny comment after the "*", whereby JuneMouse noted his own clever postcounting increase technique.

And when I watched National Treasure I was mostly struck by two things and did not catch the disappearing spectales, probably because, again, I was not wearing my own.

1. I was SO releaved that someone finally found those missing scrolls from the Library of Alexandria. There were a few I had not had time to finish reading before the fire and I hate starting to read something and not get to finish.

2. I was amazed that such a large cavern under a well build-up area in a major U. S. city had not been discovered by any pipeline, electrical conduit, or foundation piling in over 200 years. Wonder what's hiding under a city near you? Oh I remember, just the "underground" and some unexploded ordinance from WWII. For me, it's only just part of the Hayward Fault, waiting for the next big earthquake.

And just a small "technical" point. Your "copy" is either a "copy" OR "the original." It can't be the "original copy."

And what's "really" on the back?

"What's on the Back?

People who watched the popular movie "National Treasure" want to know. On the back, at the bottom, upside-down is simply written:

"Original Declaration of Independence
dated 4th July 1776"

According to the National Archives, "While no one knows for certain who wrote it, it is known that early in its life, the large parchment document was rolled up for storage. So, it is likely that the notation was added simply as a label."

Regards,

[hobferret]

JMI

I did notice JuneMouse's comment, how do you know that person is male. You really are too clever, but that's why you are admim eh.

If you have the DVD "National Treasure" the disappearing spectacles; this can clearly be seen when Justin Bartha is running the surveillance cable and afterwards when he returns to the van.

The missing scrolls from the Library of Alexandria, so you never cease to amaze me, you read Greek too!

Hey man did you know they recently "dug up" a spitfire buried 20 feet down in the middle of London. So one never knows what lies beneath our cities.

It is the "original copy" i.e. the first copy made by hand of course!

The Declaration of Independance, on the back as far as I know is what you say, although there is some talk of the Liberty Bell. How or why I don't know.

Maybe the "real" Declaration was stolen by a British secret agent a la 007, sent in by George III. Strange lot these Brits.

/hobferret

[JMI]

Hi hobferret:

The "Original" Declaration of Independence, was affirmatively voted on on July 4, 1776, but the New York delegation was required to abstain, and the Declaration was not signed on that day. Later that same day, Congress ordered the printing of between 200-500 "Broadsides" of the Declaration for distribution among the Colonies. Neither the "original" document or the Broadsides were signed.

The New York Resolution was laid before the Continental Congress on July 15th so then and not before was it proper to entitle the document "The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen States of America." Contrary to popular belief, the printed Broadside with only Hancock and Thomson's names was the actual document delivered to King George III in England later that year. The names of the other delegates who voted for Independence were not published until 1777.

On July 19, 1776 Congress ordered that the Declaration be "fairly engrossed on parchment, with the title and stile [sic] of 'The unanimous declaration of the thirteen United States of America,' and that the same, when engrossed, be signed by every member of Congress." This "handwritten" copy of the "Original" was the one signed by 56 members of the Continental Congress. It is believed that this signed "copy" is the "only" handwritten copy of the "original" document and, therefore, the only "copy" of the "original."

The "original" document was eventually lost and the "signed copy" is the one on display in Washington. That "copy" is severely faded, unlike the one shown in the movie, because of poor early preservation techniques and a "wet ink transfer" process used to attempt to make additional printed "copies" of the "original signed" document in 1820.

The 201 "official" parchment printed copies struck from the William J. Stone plate carry the identification "Engraved by W. J. Stone for the Department of State, by order" in the upper left corner followed by "of J. Q. Adams, Sec. of State July 4th 1824." in the upper right corner. "Unofficial" copies that were struck later do not have the identification at the top of the document or are printed on vellum. Instead the engraver identified his work by engraving "W. J. Stone SC. Washn." near the lower left corner and burnishing out the earlier identification. Today 31 of the 201 Stone facsimiles printed in 1823 are known to exist.

http://www.thedeclarationofindependence.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence

That said, "the original copy," to the extent that usage may be correct, would have to apply only to the handwritten document signed on July 19, 1776. All the other "copies" are "prints" and would not appear to merit the term "copies" because none of them are handwritten, although they are, indeed, ink transfer printed "copies" of the "original."

I did, indeed watch the program showing the unearthing of the "Spitfire that Saved London." Fortunately, Britian's original Kamikaze survived his ramming of the German bomber.

I "assume" JuneMouse is male, because of the use of the word "gonna" in the Post. Based on empirical evidence, most female writers are more careful with their use of grammar and casual slang. But I am open to the possibility it was a "deliberate" effort at gender concealment.

By the way, if you have an "original" Broadside, the last one found sold for slightly over $8 million dollars.

Regards,

[hobferret]

JMI

Interesting stuff "Contrary to popular belief, the printed Broadside with only Hancock and Thomson's names was the actual document delivered to King George III in England later that year."

So the Brits did not steal it then.

$8 million dollars, better get the darn thing insured then.

I hope the Hayward Fault behaves itself for you, does that mean you are down Palo Alto way?

I'm getting homesick talking about this, need to be back in Albuquerque. There is one thing for that; the climate is much better, it's midsummer here and freezing, well almost.

/hobferret

[JMI]

Hi hobferret:

Palo Alto is on the West side of the San Francisco Bay Pensulia. It is most affected by the San Andreas Fault zone, which is the one which caused the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake. Hayward is on the East side of the Bay and it's fault line runs North through Berkeley and South through San Jose. There are several other fault lines on the East side of the Bay, besides the Hayward fault.

I am located to the East of San Francisco and remember very clearly the 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake along the San Andreas Fault which struck on October 17th, during the World Series between San Francisco and Oakland. I happened to be on the phone talking to someone closer to the epicenter who told me they were having an Earthquake. I has several seconds to warn the people in my office we were about to have an Earthquake before the shaking reached us and knocked over some major furniture in our office. I told them for several days that I was just physic and had just "known" it was coming. That was the one which cause part of the S.F. Bay Bridge and a major doubledeck freeway in Oakland to collapse and part of San Francisco's Marina District to burn down.

That was my second major Earthquake experience. I was also fairly close to the epicenter of the 1983 Coalinga California Earthquake, centered south of San Jose, when that one hit. It was "only" about 6.5 on the Richter scale, while the Loma Prieta quake was about 7.1. We have much smaller "jolts" all the time around here, and they are always predicting a "big one" along the Hayward fault, someday, which will do major damage because of the mass of humanity and development along the fault line. Here's a map of "recent" activity along some of the major faultlines, which can be moved about to show major sections of the Bay Area.

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/FaultMaps/121-37.htm

What has been passing for summer here in California has been very strange also. The weather has been unseasonably cool and wet for almost summer. Hope you make it "home" soon.

Regards,

[hobferret]

JMI

Thanx fot the info's, I never got to SF when I was home, LA the closest place to there

Not actually been home since 1969, however, have been to NY, MIA & Anchorage for work

Never remember an earthquake in NM but pop used to say there was one the year I was born, right on Albu. Been in minor ones, Panama (1979) and the constant rumbling of Arequipa (Peru) a few times but no where else

Hope the East Bay area stays stable for you all

Regards

/hobferret