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Old 07-14-2005, 15:32
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Unhappy ExeTools is getting slow...

Last two weeks ExeTools is getting too slow for me. Im on 2Mbit cable and pages are loading very slow - sometimes they expire with the known "Page cannot be displayed".

Anyone with the same experience?
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Old 07-14-2005, 15:39
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Question No probs here

No "slowdowns" for me recently and I have been visiting quite a lot lately as well. Sorry, I do not feel comfortable revealing my location, but it is VERY far away.

Maybe you have an ISP or other problem. Try clearing all your cookies/cache and/or use a different (or standard) browser.

Just some suggestions. Hope it helps.
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Old 07-14-2005, 15:58
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No slow loading here and my connection speed isn't even half of your's.

Like nullz said most likely and ISP problem.
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Old 07-14-2005, 16:34
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Hmm, Exetools was never fast for me. Sometimes I had to use a proxy to speedup page loading time.
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Old 07-14-2005, 16:59
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same as baatazu for me in u.k.
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Old 07-14-2005, 17:55
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No problem here, all ok works fine! From planet earth
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Old 07-14-2005, 21:17
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I did few small tests and what can I say is that my connection to ExeTools (I'm located in Central Europe) is 6 kilobytes per second on average but when I tried to connect ExeTools via various other places (especially US servers) there was no delay like I have in CE.
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Old 07-14-2005, 21:21
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Yeah, looks like the Europe has some connectivity problems with ExeTools while US/Asia is just fine.
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Old 07-14-2005, 22:04
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in this side of europe (left) is slooooooooooooooooooooooooow too
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Old 07-14-2005, 23:39
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Ok, I think I did my homework. I've tried to connect various Chineese places and monitor packets route/response/loss.

One of the servers I tried to connect is maintained by Shanghai Global Network. ExeTools is being hosted by China Mobile Communications so let's call them respectively SGN and CMC. As we already knew CMC seems to cause strange delays while connecting European users (I am assuming our case). When I connect to SGN then I (my packets) encompass almost whole Earth (X->Germany->USA->China - via the ocean) . When I connect to ExeTools then I am being routed on much shorter path (X->Germany->China).

Theoretically I should achieve much faster reply (not to mention bandwith) from ExeTools than the other server (hosted by SGN). And here the story begins. While connecting to ExeTools I lost the packets in six places. That's far too high. 1-3 would be ok but 6 problematic routers aren't something usual. Furthermore I have the following packets percentage losses:

1 - 20, 2 - 10, 3 - 10, 4 - 10, 5, - 20, 6 - 35.

So, the most interesting point is the sixth one. It misses so many packets (35%) that I was unable to quickly retrace correct ExeTools packets route because after this point I don't know the exact route but just see ExeTools response, without knowing what are the missing connections between sixth problematic router (211.141.237.27 - owned by CMC) and ExeTools itself (CMC too). Maybe there is a way to reveal the missing part of trace but I'm definitely not any network specialist.

Summarizing: 6 weak points and huge loss (35%) in one of them. Could it be responsible for ExeTools delay we encounter? Maybe, but if so then, theoretically, other (Chineese, US, etc.) ExeTools users should face similar problems (less sensible) since at this stage we are analyzing Chineese routers. So, going step further it would be nice to check each point (router) separately to reveal what is really going on. I used Ethereal - the very best sniffer available (well, I know, it doesn't support protocols rebuilding/recompilation but who cares in that case).

218.200.252.129 - China (CMC)
10/10, min = 2052ms, max = 2060ms, avg = 2057ms

62.159.199.166 - Germany (Deutsche Telekom)
no response, but I tricked it a little and the score was: 1417ms

Now that's something very wrong. 1417ms is a terrible response, not to mention that I'm located ~800km from this German router. Chineese 2057ms sounds like a joke too but let's assume it's ok (it isn't).

For those of you who don't want to waste the time on reading all the crap I wrote: I'm suggesting that these two places are responsible for connection problems with ExeTools. If your packets addressed for 211.141.237.27 (ExeTools) go by 62.159.199.166 then they will reach 218.200.252.129 too and that's the reason of our problems. If you're connecting from other continent than Europe you might not encounter the problems we do; the same if you're in Europe but your last national router doesn't reach 62.159.199.166.

Please notice I am not any specialist (nor even experienced) in networking topics so don't blame me for bad naming or wrong conclusions. It's only my small, humble hypothesis. Hope it was correct and helped at least one to understand ExeTools connection speed problem.

Regards.

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Old 07-15-2005, 00:44
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well it has been too slow or just quits with connection timed out for me for the past may be 15 to 20 days
infact i queried JMI in one thread (the upucker by dwing incidentally that was my last post before this on 9/7 and i could reach here only twice including this time in about
may be 20 to 30 tries
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:23
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A. Government Conspiracy.
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:26
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I believe it depends on the peering your ISP has. I am not in the US, and sometimes connection speed is fast, and others is VERY slow. I believe it has to be the provider.
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Old 07-17-2005, 01:39
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KiNGrichard, I believe it's unlikely to be immediate peering issues from local user ISP considering it's a large chunk of Europe that is apparently affected. It's painfully slow for me too.

One solution I've used previously is to locate some open proxies in a different part of the world and bounce through there. Handily now I know that USA proxies are an option too, thanks to this thread.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:29
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Cool

Thre seems to be no connection problems here in Indian sub continent. I'm on dialup and pages loads just in 2 or 3 seconds...

btw. you can use openproxies for sure.

Here is a good listing ....

h**p://www.samair.ru/proxy/
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